Brainstorming Room

I first want to apologize to the few people who will not read throught this whole entire post. This is a live transcript…nothing has been edited. I know this makes it not as fun and exciting to read, you’ll have to deal with it though. I promise big rewards and breakthough thoughts if you do practice discipline and patience in reading every word of this post.

If you do not read it from start to finish I guarantee…you will make a huge mistake when trying to apply the advice given. Please feel free to ask questions by commenting on this post. I know because of it’s format, things might not have been explained in detail. Without further delay:

Uncensored Conversation Between Me and My Newest Student

Session Start (MpyreDzirez:awakenedmind2000): Mon Dec 18 20:57:48 2006
[20:57] awakenedmind2000: hi Justin.
[20:57] MpyreDzirez: hey bud
[20:58] awakenedmind2000: It is morning here. I got up an hour ago.
[20:58] MpyreDzirez: wow
[20:58] MpyreDzirez: its 9pm here
[20:59] awakenedmind2000: wow , man its night there
[20:59] awakenedmind2000: Which country are you in?
[21:00] MpyreDzirez: USA
[21:00] awakenedmind2000: Oh. good.
[21:01] MpyreDzirez: So whats on your mind
[21:01] MpyreDzirez: got any questions
[21:02] awakenedmind2000: And as you said that you are not looking for friendship , then let me come straight to the point. What are your suggestions and advice.The niche that I was building a site on was tattoos, and I read in the warriors forum that it is a useless niche and no one spends any money on that , so I decided to just let it go
[21:03] awakenedmind2000: The thread was “how to make money out of thin air” page 5.
[21:03] MpyreDzirez: check this video out…its a video from an amazing thread inside the WA forum
[21:04] *** “awakenedmind2000″ signed off at Mon Dec 18 21:04:41 2006.
[21:05] awakenedmind2000: which video
[21:05] MpyreDzirez: u ther
[21:06] MpyreDzirez: it said you signed off
[21:06] awakenedmind2000: Yeah, suddenly it closed. I dont know how.
[21:06] MpyreDzirez: ok hold on lemme get you the link this will teach you a little more about niche research
[21:06] MpyreDzirez: you will have questions after
[21:07] awakenedmind2000: ok
[21:10] MpyreDzirez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXHJOARjfA8
[21:12] awakenedmind2000: Ok, I am watching it now.
[21:23] awakenedmind2000: Ok, I am sort of finished with this video and it does help me with google trends which i was unable to understand earlier.
[21:23] MpyreDzirez: did you watch video 2
[21:24] MpyreDzirez: don’t mind the whole i am not looking to be friends thing
[21:24] awakenedmind2000: no this is video 1 about google trends
[21:24] MpyreDzirez: I am a cool guy…just have to say certain things sometimes to get people to act on their goals
[21:24] MpyreDzirez: ok there is a part 2….on the right hand column you’ll see it
[21:25] awakenedmind2000: yeah, I understand.
[21:26] MpyreDzirez: The only thing that does piss me off is when I tell someone how and what to do…and then they go and do something else. Or even worse quit on me
[21:26] MpyreDzirez: I have made a shyt load of mistakes…which is good news for you because you won’t have to make them,
[21:27] awakenedmind2000: I hope I learn to make some sales
[21:29] awakenedmind2000: ok, this technocrati thing is more about technocrati and how it tells us the popularity of a certain niche
[21:30] MpyreDzirez: you will..first you will have to learn how to market
[21:30] MpyreDzirez: and how to sell
[21:30] MpyreDzirez: then the sales will come
[21:31] MpyreDzirez: this video came from a 7 page long thread in WA forum…everyone was helping this kid pick a successful niche….and Travis the bum marketer made this video for him
[21:32] awakenedmind2000: okay, seems like travis really knows his stuff
[21:32] MpyreDzirez: so what are some other ideas you had in mind for niches…how do you get your ideas?
[21:32] awakenedmind2000: Till now , I have only been using nichebot to find niches
[21:32] MpyreDzirez: Travis is awesome…me and him talk all the time…mostly about sales letter techniques
[21:32] awakenedmind2000: I had also looked for what is the buzz about and there I found about tattoos.
[21:33] MpyreDzirez: yeah…they are popular right now
[21:33] awakenedmind2000: but then i found that people dont spend on tattoos.
[21:33] MpyreDzirez: because of Miami ink the tv show
[21:33] MpyreDzirez: they don’t spend online for them thats the prob
[21:34] awakenedmind2000: But then I also saw that there are books on tattoos in clickbank and their ref% is like 60% and above
[21:34] awakenedmind2000: it means that they are making sales. But maybe it would need more experience to make sales like those
[21:34] MpyreDzirez: whats the title i’ll look it up with the WA clickbank tool it will tell me the truth about it
[21:35] MpyreDzirez: nm found it
[21:36] MpyreDzirez: Ultimate Tatto Ebook?
[21:37] awakenedmind2000: it is “tattoo me now”
[21:37] MpyreDzirez: I was just looking at that one…that is is semi-decent
[21:37] MpyreDzirez: but still has a 7% refund rate
[21:38] MpyreDzirez: that ultimate one has a 30% refund rate
[21:38] awakenedmind2000: and then there is the japanese symbols
[21:38] MpyreDzirez: no stats on it
[21:39] MpyreDzirez: that means its either brand new or not selling
[21:39] awakenedmind2000: I am promoting 2 of them.Yeah, there are no stats on this one. I have sent about 74 persons to the site till now and no sales
[21:39] MpyreDzirez: lemme see your review page…or how do you send them?
[21:40] awakenedmind2000: http://www.silentarrow.com/tatoodesigns/index.html
[21:40] awakenedmind2000: actually, it is not a review page. but just a page on tatoos
[21:40] awakenedmind2000: and I have linked to the books on the corner.
[21:40] awakenedmind2000: I am just getting adsense money from this
[21:42] MpyreDzirez: ok I am going to tell you something now that might go against what others have told you
[21:42] awakenedmind2000: ok, tell me
[21:42] MpyreDzirez: forget about adsense…expecially on sites you are trying to make money from affiliates
[21:43] MpyreDzirez: you are giving them links to go to places other then the sites you want them too
[21:43] MpyreDzirez: plus those other sites are probably a few of your competitors
[21:43] MpyreDzirez: another thing is you are not selling anything on that site
[21:43] awakenedmind2000: so, what should i do? Remove those ads.
[21:43] MpyreDzirez: you barely even tell them to go to those sites
[21:44] MpyreDzirez: yes kill the adsense
[21:44] MpyreDzirez: thats first
[21:44] MpyreDzirez: next make your site look like it has something to do with tattoo’s
[21:45] MpyreDzirez: the tattoo audience is a hardcore type group
[21:45] MpyreDzirez: they don’t want to see light grey’s and leaves
[21:46] awakenedmind2000: u mean , brighten it up and dazzle them with colours
[21:46] MpyreDzirez: yeah man make it all hardcore
[21:46] MpyreDzirez: throw som grafitti images up there
[21:46] MpyreDzirez: and some japanese symbols
[21:46] MpyreDzirez: go visit a tattoo shop…make your site look like the shop
[21:47] awakenedmind2000: Okay, maybe i should look for a different template with more colours
[21:48] MpyreDzirez: yeah…it’s too bad you are not a WA member there are all kinds of templates and stuff in there
[21:48] MpyreDzirez: where do you get yours from?
[21:48] awakenedmind2000: oswd.org
[21:48] MpyreDzirez: I have some other sources
[21:48] MpyreDzirez: yeh they are good
[21:48] MpyreDzirez: I was going to mention them
[21:48] awakenedmind2000: okay, tell me
[21:48] MpyreDzirez: I’ll send you the one I want you to use
[21:48] MpyreDzirez: whats your email
[21:48] awakenedmind2000: even better
[21:49] awakenedmind2000:
[21:51] MpyreDzirez: sent
[21:51] MpyreDzirez: use index3
[21:51] MpyreDzirez: you’ll see it after you unzip it
[21:52] awakenedmind2000: okay.and how should i tell them to go to the sites
[21:53] awakenedmind2000: okay, this looks good.
[21:54] MpyreDzirez: we’ll work on that later…right now lets get the site changed
[22:01] awakenedmind2000: I have put up the page here. but the css is not working.
[22:02] awakenedmind2000: http://www.silentarrow.com/tatoodesigns/tattoos.html
[22:02] awakenedmind2000: see this
[22:03] MpyreDzirez: ne min
[22:04] awakenedmind2000: Hey, I made it work. now look at the page
[22:05] awakenedmind2000: but I cant see the dragon.
[22:05] MpyreDzirez: hold on…phone
[22:06] awakenedmind2000: ok
[22:09] awakenedmind2000: okay, I did it . everything is there now. although the dragon seems to be a bit low
[22:10] MpyreDzirez: ok going there now
[22:11] awakenedmind2000: when u tell me that it is okay, then i will put all this in the main index page.
[22:15] awakenedmind2000: well, what do you think
[22:16] MpyreDzirez: sry…it’s getting late here and I have to run back and forth
[22:16] MpyreDzirez: Its better
[22:16] MpyreDzirez: much better
[22:17] awakenedmind2000: Okay, we will do it later. then. maybe later in the day.
[22:17] MpyreDzirez: I’m good lets keep going unless u are busy
[22:17] awakenedmind2000: no, I am not busy now.
[22:18] MpyreDzirez: ok then lets gitrdone
[22:18] MpyreDzirez: american slang
[22:18] MpyreDzirez: for get it done
[22:18] awakenedmind2000: whew. I will learn all the slangs very soon
[22:18] awakenedmind2000: just by keeping in touch with you
[22:19] MpyreDzirez: haha
[22:19] MpyreDzirez: ok so all that info text stuff
[22:19] MpyreDzirez: lets move all that to their own pages
[22:20] awakenedmind2000: which info text stuff
[22:21] MpyreDzirez: hmm…u r right
[22:21] MpyreDzirez: I thought they were articles…but that seems to be your sales letter
[22:21] awakenedmind2000: yeah, I had copy and pasted them before uploading
[22:22] MpyreDzirez: ok lemme fix it up a little…just to give you something better to work with
[22:22] awakenedmind2000: I have even changed the links at the side. although i couldnt change them all
[22:22] MpyreDzirez: then I will start to teach you how to sell
[22:23] awakenedmind2000: ok
[22:23] MpyreDzirez: ok actually all of it has to go
[22:23] MpyreDzirez: wait
[22:23] MpyreDzirez: leave the part about the best ebook
[22:23] MpyreDzirez:
The best tattoo ebook
Japanese Kanji Symbols– It is a great site related to japanese kanji symbols. It explains the different types of japanese scripts and symbols and even the meaning of the symbols. I think they even give a book free, although I am not sure if they are still giving it. If you dont want to make a mistake in your tatoo symbols , you better check out this site
[22:23] MpyreDzirez: leave all that
[22:23] awakenedmind2000: Hey, I had just put that in a hurry
[22:23] awakenedmind2000: ok
[22:24] MpyreDzirez: I know I am not try ing to be mean….I know its not going to be perfect yet
[22:24] MpyreDzirez: thats why I am here to help
[22:24] MpyreDzirez: trying*
[22:24] awakenedmind2000: U mean I should let this part be on the page and change the rest
[22:25] MpyreDzirez: everything above “The best tatoo ebook” needs to go
[22:25] awakenedmind2000: okay.
[22:26] MpyreDzirez: then change that sentence to…
[22:26] MpyreDzirez: Do you need ideas for a new tattoo?
[22:27] awakenedmind2000: But below this I have just written about the japanese symbols. I want to write about the tatoo me now book also
[22:27] MpyreDzirez: yeah
[22:28] MpyreDzirez: I only want you to erase everything above
[22:28] MpyreDzirez: that last paragraphp
[22:28] MpyreDzirez: paragraph
[22:28] awakenedmind2000: okay. I have erased it all.
[22:28] MpyreDzirez: we’re going to add sutff to it don’t worry
[22:29] MpyreDzirez: thats lookin good!
[22:29] awakenedmind2000: hey, the page looks good now. just take a look.
[22:29] awakenedmind2000: http://www.silentarrow.com/tatoodesigns/tattoos.html
[22:29] awakenedmind2000: although it looks very small
[22:30] MpyreDzirez: diamonds are small also
[22:30] awakenedmind2000: i hope my site becomes as worthy as a diamond
[22:30] MpyreDzirez: ;)
[22:30] MpyreDzirez: ok now we want to add a paragraph about the other book
[22:31] awakenedmind2000: yeah.
[22:31] MpyreDzirez: right under that other one
[22:33] MpyreDzirez: do me a favor….don’t set this as the true index yet
[22:33] MpyreDzirez: unless you already have
[22:33] MpyreDzirez: or set it as the index but leave the other one in there so we can use it as an example later
[22:33] awakenedmind2000: no, i haven’t done it yet. I was waiting for the green signal from you
[22:33] MpyreDzirez: I want to be able to show a couple people the before and after
[22:34] awakenedmind2000: okay
[22:34] MpyreDzirez: its all good I am just taking screenshots
[22:35] awakenedmind2000: but what if people copy all this
[22:35] awakenedmind2000: and the other niches that i may get into
[22:36] MpyreDzirez: they won’t
[22:36] MpyreDzirez: I’ll protect it
[22:36] awakenedmind2000: okay
[22:37] MpyreDzirez: also…competition is a good thing…don’t be scared of it
[22:37] MpyreDzirez: it’s hard to uinderstand in the begining
[22:37] MpyreDzirez: understand
[22:37] awakenedmind2000: okay, I’ll wipe off the sweat then
[22:37] MpyreDzirez: do you know what webmd is?
[22:37] awakenedmind2000: webmd?? no
[22:38] MpyreDzirez: its a site that people go to…to try and find cures or answers to medical questions
[22:38] MpyreDzirez: its the next best thing to a doctor
[22:38] MpyreDzirez: my grandfather had a website like this long before WebMD came out….and when they did we thought he was trully done for
[22:39] MpyreDzirez: but it actually made him much more successful…and he knew it would
[22:39] awakenedmind2000: and how was that
[22:39] MpyreDzirez: because WebMD paid all the money to tell people that a service like this was now available…then people looked for more then just WebMD
[22:39] MpyreDzirez: and found him
[22:39] awakenedmind2000: wow
[22:40] MpyreDzirez: yeh trust me…I am going to blow your mind with some stuff I teach you….I remember being at your stage
[22:41] MpyreDzirez: lemme know when you get that paragraph done
[22:41] awakenedmind2000: okay.
[22:47] awakenedmind2000: look at it now— http://www.silentarrow.com/tatoodesigns/tattoos.html
[22:48] awakenedmind2000: i have done the paragraph
[22:48] awakenedmind2000: OOps , I forgot to change the headline.
[22:48] MpyreDzirez: only one title
[22:49] MpyreDzirez: headline
[22:49] MpyreDzirez: take out the other
[22:49] awakenedmind2000: Okay, that is a good idea. and easier too.
[22:50] awakenedmind2000: done. Now see it
[22:50] MpyreDzirez: k
[22:50] MpyreDzirez: that site is looking so hot now
[22:50] MpyreDzirez: you like it right
[22:51] awakenedmind2000: yeah. I am liking it. It looks so clean now.
[22:51] awakenedmind2000: And very specific and to the point. Just go there and buy the books.
[22:51] MpyreDzirez: ok now we have to work on making it sell
[22:51] awakenedmind2000: yeah
[22:52] MpyreDzirez: i am gunna go do a little research…in the meantime go see if you can find any forums that deal with just tatoos
[22:53] MpyreDzirez: or myspace goups that are all about tattoos
[22:53] awakenedmind2000: yeah, there are a lot of forums on tattoos
[22:53] MpyreDzirez: ok register to them and bookmark them…atleast 3 of them
[22:53] MpyreDzirez: 5 is perfect
[22:54] awakenedmind2000: I think I am registered with 2 , will find 3 more
[22:54] MpyreDzirez: just 2 more
[22:54] MpyreDzirez: thats good enough
[22:54] awakenedmind2000: okay
[23:00] awakenedmind2000: done . registered in 2 forums
[23:01] MpyreDzirez: browse the posts and see what people complain about
[23:04] awakenedmind2000: well, I found that some people are looking for tatoo designs for the ribs while some want have seen a good design, which does not umm, click with them and they are looking for a better design
[23:06] MpyreDzirez: keep looking…you are looking for a common problem that lots of people are having….and also if there are any hints to what they always buy
[23:06] awakenedmind2000: some people had seen a design on someone and cant find it again
[23:07] MpyreDzirez: this is how you research a niche
[23:07] MpyreDzirez: the right way
[23:07] awakenedmind2000: I think that the most common problem is that people have a vague idea of a design and are unable to explain it to the tatoo artist. they would like to see pictures. They would like to see their vague ideas about designs on real life pics.
[23:08] MpyreDzirez: ok
[23:08] awakenedmind2000: yes, this seems to be good research.
[23:08] MpyreDzirez: you first have to know what a fish is hungry for in order to know which bait to use
[23:10] awakenedmind2000: but, there is one problem . the questions are being answered with links to different sites, which is sort of answering their questions. I mean, they are getting their questions answered for free and are able to see a lot of designs for free.
[23:10] MpyreDzirez: so you are seeing with your own eyes the problem with your niche
[23:10] awakenedmind2000: so, why would they buy a book
[23:10] awakenedmind2000: yeah
[23:11] MpyreDzirez: and now we know that it sucks to do all this other work…before we research a niche properly
[23:11] awakenedmind2000: yeah. But I am still wondering how these books on clickbank and amazon are being sold
[23:12] MpyreDzirez: its probably those sites that advertise like every clickbank product
[23:12] MpyreDzirez: and then a random person happens to buy on of the tattoo ones
[23:12] MpyreDzirez: and it’s porbably someone that does tattoo’s
[23:12] awakenedmind2000: hmmm, maybe
[23:13] awakenedmind2000: then there’s no use going with this niche or maybe I should just let the adsense run and hope that someone may buy a book
[23:14] MpyreDzirez: hold on…we have only done 5 mins of research
[23:14] awakenedmind2000: okay
[23:14] MpyreDzirez: lets find out what these people are buying….a good way to find this out is
[23:15] MpyreDzirez: looking at leaders in this niche and seeing what they advertise
[23:15] MpyreDzirez: also amazon.com has a feature that says this person also bought such and such
[23:15] awakenedmind2000: and how do i find the leaders in that niche
[23:15] MpyreDzirez: http://tattoos.com/
[23:16] MpyreDzirez: basically you type in the keywords to your niche and look for the guy who has the number one spot
[23:16] MpyreDzirez: in Google
[23:16] awakenedmind2000: okay
[23:17] MpyreDzirez: http://tattoos.com/bookstore/books.htm
[23:17] MpyreDzirez: they have amazon books listed
[23:18] MpyreDzirez: we can do that too
[23:18] MpyreDzirez: in fact all of their products seem to be amazon items
[23:18] MpyreDzirez: this is great news
[23:19] MpyreDzirez: fantastic news
[23:19] awakenedmind2000: the first site points to a tatoo membership site (maybe an affiliate of that)
[23:19] awakenedmind2000: but amazon pays so low
[23:19] MpyreDzirez: that could works also
[23:19] MpyreDzirez: it pays more then $0 (what you are making now)
[23:19] awakenedmind2000: hahaha
[23:19] MpyreDzirez: ;)
[23:20] MpyreDzirez: plus if you have 10 sites that make you only $10 a day thats $100 a day
[23:20] MpyreDzirez: $36,500 a year
[23:20] awakenedmind2000: hmm, now it seems to be good
[23:21] MpyreDzirez: see its all in the research
[23:21] MpyreDzirez: nothing else really matter
[23:21] MpyreDzirez: this is the biggest reason others fail
[23:21] awakenedmind2000: yeah, very few know how to research properly
[23:22] awakenedmind2000: there is also a market for those who want to become tatoo artists
[23:22] MpyreDzirez: see your mind is on a different level now…you are starting to get it now
[23:23] awakenedmind2000: yeah.
[23:23] MpyreDzirez: I think you have a lot to chew on now…and I also want to see how well you do on your own at this new level of thinking
[23:24] MpyreDzirez: I want to see what your website looks like after you have added new sections with bunches of amazon products
[23:25] awakenedmind2000: You mean add the amazon products to the new template
[23:25] MpyreDzirez: often on amazon people review these products….take notes and add the reviews to your site also
[23:25] MpyreDzirez: yes
[23:25] MpyreDzirez: do you know how to do that?
[23:25] awakenedmind2000: I will do it by trial and error
[23:25] MpyreDzirez: its just copy pasting code
[23:25] MpyreDzirez: yeah it’ll be good for you to learn this
[23:26] MpyreDzirez: learn
[23:27] awakenedmind2000: So, now what I have to do is to conduct some more research and add amazon products to my site.This would be my task for the day. And now , I would have to go to the office. So, I will show you the site at night.
[23:27] awakenedmind2000: would that be okay for you?
[23:27] MpyreDzirez: that sounds like a good plan
[23:27] MpyreDzirez: it’s almost midnight here
[23:28] MpyreDzirez: don’t be too afraid to mess up
[23:28] MpyreDzirez: just have fun
[23:28] awakenedmind2000: okay, so you can go and get some sleep now.
[23:28] awakenedmind2000: yeah, I will have fun
[23:28] MpyreDzirez: just like I fixed you up tonite I will fix you up if you make mistakes again…thats what I am here for
[23:28] MpyreDzirez: have a great day
[23:28] awakenedmind2000: okay. off i go
Session Close (awakenedmind2000): Mon Dec 18 23:29:03 2006

Whew…! If you are still with me I bet you are super excited to go out and do real niche research. I wanted to teach him a lesson by working on his website first and then doing research…notice how the research pointed out that everything we did was for nothing! Thats why it is so important to not only know how to research correctly…but to always research your niche before getting everything else started.

If you would like more help like this then I suggest you sign up to Wealthy Affiliate so you have the same tools as I do…Once you’re in just send me a PM and I’ll give you all my personal contact details so we can talk live and get you straightened out. I obviously am only doing this for a few people…as I do not have all the time in the world. So I would hurry if I were you. Stop reading posts about someone helping others and start being the one getting the help.

Onwards and Upwards,
Justin Brooke

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